Stuart	Fran	Girl 1	Girl 2	Girl 3
What were they looking for?
			We were separated between different ones, the guy who did the treasure hunt, he did that by himself
		It was an area where there was a lot of species and different habitat and stuff there. So it was pretty much ?what I can see? so they would go and find it and ?hey what?s this?. [laugh] That was the fun part for them.
I guess the surveying would be the boring part.
		[laughs] Then next week we would start 18 always for a good three weeks, we?re gonna be teaching the Tseycum band were we are from, we would be teaching, forest, ecology, and um Streamkeepers, Shorekeepers,
wow	that?s great	And it?s gonna, it?s a training for us in that we could? because we?re gonna be the ones that are going to be training people for Shorekeepers, so it?s going to be experience for us because we really haven?t spoken.
You have done it a fair amount but you haven?t taught people yet. Wow, that?ll be great.		yeah, yeah yeah
	Once you get into it,	yeah
	because you?ve all the experience behind you now, once you start talking,	yeah
	you get into your own stories about what you do, and all that kinda thing	yeah
	is what everyone wants to hear.
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So you think the kids?ll be interested?
		I think they would, yeah, there is a group of seven from age twelve to fifteen years old, they are on the cycle youth summer program right now and we?ve kind of got them involved in a little bit of what we are doing in this area. Because they are our younger generation too and later on they are going to continue on with Streamkeepers, and we?ll have some out there taking care of those fish. Same with the beach area.
			Hopefully getting them interested.
	So you went through training, like I?m new to this project so I am just finding out all the background stuff that is going on? who did your training and what kind of things did you have before? Like how, cuz I don?t know anywhere, Do you have a science background or did you just have an interest?
			I had an interest and it is pretty much learning hands on experience right now, we?ll be continuing on with school in September, we?ll get to go to school 2 1/2 days a week, upgrading, schooling there? Math, English. Hopefully it will take us 1 1/2, 2 years then we will be able to train, we will do a lot of side courses, workshops, meeting a lot of scientists, learning more about eco (121) and stuff, just learning about things that will help us.
Sounds like a great program, just to be able to hang out with scientists.		It is
You pick up so much just being with them.
		It started out like ?a job? when we first started and it is just like a child, you know, grabbed our interest and we were interested. It was a place where we grew up, the beach, we were always down the beach when we were kids. We grew up in this area out in the forest, by the streams, you know that was our little playground and stuff. Yeah, let?s go see what?s out here, wander around out there, see what we can see y?know There was eagles, there was hawks, little squirrels, y?know. All the little animals out there.
			It?s just, It?s all natural to me, I love the area, I love being outside. [laughs] What better can you get. Stuart: Sounds pretty sweet.
				Ian is the one that brought in that we should be not just working, but work our way up and be able to train people. At first this year we thought we were just going to be doing the work. And he brought it on that we should further our education and be able to supervise and train.
What do you think, obviously you think guys think that that?s pretty good.				I do.
		It is a great opportunity, with the Shorekeepers it is, there is a lot of people who are interested in title, survey title, it is kind of going all over the world there. [laughs] So many people are interested in it. Shorekeepers is coming out
It?s going to be important more and more with all the restoration that is going to have to go on. Shores and streams. So what kind of knowledge did you have before you started about the stream. Y?know about the animals and stuff like that?
			I didn?t know too much at all and they said we were going to be cleaning the creek, it was like Ohh, OK we can take logs and everything all out o? there. You know it?s like we didn?t know too much at all. [laughs] I figured we would take garbage and all that out of there, but I learned a lot what has to stay in that creek and why and how to protect and?.
				Char and I spend a good 2 –2 1/2 weeks taking ivy, ivy off the trees so that the trees could grow again. Instead of planting a tree and waiting 30 years for it to come back or it to grow up.
If it didn?t get choked by the ivy first. Yeah, so that?s cool. So that was on..on?		Tseycum Creek
Tseycum Creek, right. That?s a good idea, yeah, that stuff gets all over the place.
				There was approximately 60 trees that we took it off. Little trees to big trees
Did you have to get like ladders or just cut the roots off?
				Just cut them off at the bottom and pulled them off away from the tree, most of it. Most of it we just pulled off away from the tree, and we cleared it away so it wouldn?t grow again. This year we saw what we missed.
	[laughs] Oh great			see some green was there but we got most of them
Oh good, it must feel satisfying?
		[laughs] Then after people finding out about that you could see them walking down our trail there and they were starting picking ivy off the trees.
	On West Saanich Road there, interesting
		Now you can see all the ivy has brown leaves.
Oh, Right on
				Glad people were reading about us.
	That?s great yeah
So how, like, do the people in the village know what you are doing?				Yeah
Do you get a lot of support from them?				yeah, yeah [hearty laughter?] Yeah, we do
That must feel good for Chief Jacks too, he will be very proud of you guys.
				Except the first year (164)?? [couldn?t make this out, but she was telling us about her son?s participation in the project..] Last year, our second year working and all the summer helping us. Turned out just we at the beginning of summer and next thing you know they were able to get a youth ??? so he was able to work with us for the summer. So he was out there with us doing the stream work and little bit of the shorekeepers he was able to do that and go back to school the following year and let everyone know what he did for the summer. Everyone was happy, [F; yeah] everyone was happy for him here now because he is good artist Brian and Donna asked him to do a logo for the Shorekeepers, he is a really good artist and everybody seen his work. Everybody is happy for him, cuz he like he?s he likes to go out and explore, he is fourteen, he already had a good paying job for him already. He was all happy about that.
that?s great. So he?s working again this year? This summer?
				No, he is going to take the summer off, he is going to do school work, a couple of grades he failed. That?ll take some work. He?s got school work for the summer.
So did his school work improve after he got involved the job? Do you think it has an effect on that?
				I think he did get better in the science area because of the marine biologist. He was at that time he was really into it. Now he is exploring, the marine biologist moved back a bit. But He?s just exploring in different kind of areas. Wants to become a chef, he know he has to start off as a dishwasher first, he?ll get there. [laughs]
Start at the bottom and work your way up.
	What kind of artwork does he do?
		Everything, native art and cartoon characters to dragons, everything
	I would think the environmental stuff he is doing for the creek would be good for his native art because he will see what the environment is like
	yeah	Kristin Bill was the first lady who was with us, when we first started. She is not here now. But she did a drawing for us, and her drawings on T-shirts were the first things we saw on the creeks when we first started. It was a dragonfly, frog, bulrush, fish.
		Got all that on a T-shirt. After him seeing all that and y?know just trying to think of all the native designs and stuff that he could use, he is just trying really to focus on what kind of logo he shouls make for Shorekeepers because he was asked to do all those.
That is great, it is exciting how things can spin off.		Yeah
So is there anything involved in the science that really kinda threw you for a loop or you found hard to understand? I guess stream keeper can get fairly technical.
			I just find I am skimming through, fast learning really fast.
It is pretty straightforward
				I am grateful to the Streamkeepers. Everything was all, we were all just doing a lot of work in the streams, doing the riffles, spawning beds and everything. It was all hard labour but it was easy to do, going through the manuals and everything, everything just really fell into place.