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MR: OK, what happened here? 11:09 |
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Sham: The rope is too skinny (comotion |
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MR: Now itÕs my turn to speak up here, and I want to select speakers rather than having conversations go on here. What happened here now? Amanda? |
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Ama: the pulley was stronger than half the class |
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MR: who was, did the pulley do anything? |
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Xs: yeah |
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MR: who pulled? |
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Xs: we do |
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Xs: you |
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MR: I pulled, but I got some help you mean? |
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Xs: yeah, a lot |
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MR: So, (3) Devin? |
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Xs: You |
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Dev: Ahm you were pulling the pulley and I think that gave you the advantage over 8 or 9 of us or 10, and you were winning till IanÕs wheel stopped and then you had an advantage over us |
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Sham: Ahm (2) ’ You were pulling your own string, though, like one end of the string was tied to tha tha end thing, and you were just pulling it, and the pulley was attached to the thing, so when you pull, the whole pulley moves and everyone on the string moves with you. |
[T selects him through pointing] [pointing to blackboard] [pulling movement] |
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MR: So you are saying that one pulley is attached, one side attached? |
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Sham: to the, to the banister, over //there] |
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11:11 |
MR: and] the other side was not attached? |
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Sham: no, the other side we were trying to pull. If we had let go, you would be off somewhere= |
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MR: =where was I, on which side was I? |
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Kian: ”A” |
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Don: no, you were on B |
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X: B |
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MR: Don, why do you think I was on B? |
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Don: because you were pulling on the little rope attached the pulley, and we were just going in a circle |
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MR: You, you were pulling this string (.) |
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Don: yeah (.) |
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MR: and I was pulling on the side that was? |
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Rile: ”letÕs switch sides” |
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Don: supports, strong supports |
[T draws on the blackboard] |
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MR: who supported me? |
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X: you see the?) |
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X: (Don?) |
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MR: sh:sh: who supported me? where (2) |
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Mac: the pulley |
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MR: OK, the pulley (.) |
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AJ: us, that supported us, ”(there was no one to hold it?)” |
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MR: out loud AJ |
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AJ: never mind |
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MR: no, I DO mind |
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AJ: OK, I forgot |
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MR: out loud |
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AJ: I forGOT |
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MR: Sh::sh: (3) Carla? |
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Car: the railing out there |
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11:12: |
MR: the railing out there, the railing there helped, the railing helped part and what helped me to make use of the railing? |
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Ril: the pulley |
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MR: Amanda? |
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Ama: the pulley |
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MR: the pulley, the pulley sort of helped me to make use of the (.) of the railing, and I have you pull on the open end. See this, what would have happened if we had rigged up the pulleys like, like Shamir wants me to do? Something like, (.) what would have happened if we had set up the pulleys like this? (3) |
[drawing] |
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Kian: yeah |
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MR: what would have happened in this case? Jennifer? |
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Jen: well, it would have been easier for the class to pull you (.) |
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MR: because? |
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Jen: because there is nothing helping you, only you |
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11:13 |
MR: so in this case, when you have a pulley fixed somewhere, and I pull one open end, and the class pulls the other open end, I donÕt stand a chance (2) |
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Sham: but |
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MR: there was a question? (2) |
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Sham: but, when we were pulling on that other one, we were pulling, we were just pulling the banister string |
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MR: No, you were pulling here, this pulley |
[open end, A] |
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Sham: yeah, but it was attached to the banister, if we pulled really hard then the (.) |
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Don: I know, I //know] |
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Sham: if we] pulled the hardest, then the banister would fly |
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Dani: we were pulling where the pulley is |
[T walks to the block and tackle] |
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(12) |
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Dani: tough guy |
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MR: you guys were pulling on this one here |
[T holds the string, see Figure 1] |
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Don: thatÕs a strong //support] |
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Asl: but you would] have lost if there was a 1000 people on //there] |
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Chan: It wou]ldnÕt have moved because I think //it is attached]] |
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Asl: //Yeah, exactly] |
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Sham: see, he is, ] actually it does |
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MR: it is attached to that pulley, but that pulley isnÕt att//ached] |
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Sham: no, but] itÕs attached to the banister |
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Chan: (and so?) what are you |
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MR: No, my rope is attached to the banister |
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Sham: you had your support, if all of us let //go,] you would have been //in] Kelowna 11:14 ((laughter, 1)) |
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X: no] |
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11:14 |
Sham: You would have been //in] Kelowna |
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X: no no] |
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MR: Don? |
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Don: the class was your strong support, we were holding it, because if we hadÕa let go you wouldÕa |
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Sham: we were holding you up |
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Don: yeah, |
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Sham: because of that pulley |
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MR: oua, no, I donÕt know who held who up? (.) Chantelle? |
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Chan: well if the other rope is hold on to there, then we wouldnÕt be pulling anything, Ōcause itÕs itÕs stuck onto there, so |
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Dani: No, it was going around something ”so he was pulling” |
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MR: so you are saying that I cheated a bit, I //used] |
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Xs: yeah] |
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X: you did] |
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MR: I used the support of the railing, and I used the pulleys and in fact what did the pulleys do? (3) Mac? |
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Mac: I just wanted to say can we set it up like the other one like Shamir said |
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MR: Amanda? |
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Aman: the pulleys give you lots of support |
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MR: yeah, and lots of, what were we talking about all these days? |
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Kian: ”slippage” |
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MR: ahm (2) |
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Kian: slippage |
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11:15 |
MR: well, the pulleys they have that, they decrease the friction, but something else, (.) I had an advantage, I had a mechanical advantage, and Daniel used another word last period, which was to gear down, (.) what I did, we geared down all of your effort, so that I actually could hold it. (3) |
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Sham: you can have the banister, if that, if that pulley there, the pulley there, if that was on our side then ahm |
[points toward blackboard] |
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MR: this was, this was on your side, because the class was pulling here, and I was pulling here |
[points to A] [points to B] |
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Sham: no, but if that, switch it around= |
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Chan: =you were B |
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Don: //if you were B] |
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Sham: switch the] whole thing around, like say, we were pulling |
[gestures switching] |
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Chan: if we were B] |
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Don: if we were B] and you A |
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Sham: no, if we were B but you had the banister on your side (1) |
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Don: ha? |
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Sham: like if the banister was on that side (.) OK, just say there was a banister on that side |
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Ian: ”I like this one best” |
[Points to] |
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MR: Does anyone understand what Shamir is asking me? |
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Xs: No |
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Ian?: yeah |
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Dev: I do |
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Sham: OK, if the |
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MR: SH:: (1) who said I do? (1) OK, Devin |
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Dev: Or what if there is a railing over there, and we were B, and, and you still had the rai//ling] |
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MR: Oh], I still canÕt imagine what you, what you are trying to say |
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Sham: do you want me to draw //it?] |
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MR: the] banister is over here? (1.8) |
[begins drawing] |
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Sham: yeah, the banister is over //here] |
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MR: and] who is here? |
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Jenni: us |
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Dev: us |
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MR: The class |
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AJ: the class is, against you |
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MR: and like this? (3.4) is that what you mean? |
[ends drawing] |
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Jenni: Yeah |
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Sham: yeah |
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MR: how is that different from this //one?] |
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Sham: no], no, itÕs like that, but you have a banister on your side |
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Kian: like both have //banisters] |
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Sham: no, no], no keep the class there, keep the class there |
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Don: Oh, I know, //I know what he means] |
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Sham: move the banister] on the other side |
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Don: I know what he means (3) |
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MR: Do you know what he means? |
[T walks toward Don, hands him the chalk] |
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Don: well, ok, if you had the (.) banister thing, the railing goes like that then (design 6)) |
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MR: yeah |
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Don: this is the string and then there would be a pulley. Am I doing this right to you? |
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Sham: yeah |
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Don: And then this would, I donÕt think come out there |
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AJ: Oh, two people out there (4.4) |
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Sham: OK (2.5) and then this thing over this, you can, you can still have that, but if we= |
[checks out previous drawing] [draws rope] [points to "banister"] |
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MR: =where do I pull, which end do I pull? |
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Sham: you can pull on here, with the, OK (3.8) this is a banister |
[points to banister string] [starts new drawing] |
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MR: but we have the banister here |
[points to old drawing] |
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AJ: Oh good |
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Sham: (5.2) banister |
[erases old drawing] [draws new one |
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MR: OK |
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Sham: Long string, |
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MR: OK, pull it |
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Sham: , Roth, pull here |
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MR: OK |
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Sham: then there is a pulley |
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MR: and where do you pull? (1.7) |
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Sham: and then there is another banister, here, and then we pull (.) here |
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Xs: Ah, yeah (4.2) |
[several students applaud] |
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MR: OK, thank you very much, can you |
[sign to sit down] [he is reluctantly giving up stage] |
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Asl: but then Mr, Dr. Roth doesnÕt have anything to pull at |
[I applaud Aslam] |
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Sham: thatÕs //just the thing] |
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X: that's exactly] |
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Dani: thatÕs the point |
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Sham: exactly, thatÕs the thing, thatÕs where whatÕs happening to us |
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Asl: yeah I know, exactly |
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Sham: now letÕs try it and youÕll be sitting... |
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Ian: the whole (bearing?) (??) banister |
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Dani: itÕs like a catapult |
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MR: what happens here? |
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Asl: we should just have, you know what you had, we should have one of those connected to the same thing so then it would be even, like what we are pulling at |
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Sham: yeah, and then weÕd see? |
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X: Yeah |
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Don: (weÕd never do it?) |
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Asl: No, like, you know what you had on your side? (1) |
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MR: you mean, here over //here]= |
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Asl: yeah] |
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MR: =and then you go a few times around with the rope, and I pull here and you pull //here] |
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Asl: yeah] |
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Sham: and the banister can be stuck to the bottom |
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MR: just a second, Daniel, Dan first |
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11:19 |
Dan: can I draw something? |
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MR: out |
[He comes to blackboard to draw] |
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Dan: draw |
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MR: go ahead |
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Dan: this is the banister, and this is another banister, |
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Sham: Yeah, thatÕs the way |
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Dan: this is the banister, and this is another banister, and then Roth, and here is the pulley, and here is another pulley right here, and then //connected to the banister,]] the class |
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X: yeah, thatÕs what I said, exactly] (2) |
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MR: Aslam |
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11:20 |
Asl: and then when the rope is like tight from the banister to the pulley, then the person, not the person on that side, but the other person that is loose, it isnÕt like, it isnÕt tight yet, then that is the winner (5) |
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MR: now here, I wouldnÕt have any advantage, because both sides are the same |
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Asl: ”exactly” |
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Dani: ”whatÕs your point?” |
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MR: in this case, both sides are the same (.) yeah, in this case and in this case I donÕt have a chance ((design 2, 8)). This one, (.) to me (.) it looks to me, someone is cheating himself ((design 5)), because I hold on with the wall, and you stand no chance, you donÕt move me a bit, and when youÕre tired then I start |
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Ril: you donÕt move us either |
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MR: when you are tired, then I start moving |
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Ril: //yeah ??] |
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Asl: //(he doesnÕt have anything to do?)] |
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Sham: //yeah, but see thatÕs] what happened to us, thatÕs what you guys did to us when you , when you were tired |
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MR: Ok, letÕs stop here, and I make u:: (2) I made use of the pulley in a way that is similar to this ((design 1)) and remember, this, for B itÕs easier than for A, for the class, and in fact ’, the way I rigged up the pulley, it made it five times easier, yeah, it made it five times, here you only get half ((design 1)), the way I set it, you get about 5 times. What I wanted to do, is quickly switch to this activity, and by the way, you did an activity, and you filled out a form, and we havenÕt gotten all the forms. ((change to 2nd class lever)) |
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